| @bohnstube
Dude i only said it to make me sound smart. Im 12. LOL | DepressedDonkey |
| @DepressedDonkey You haven't made the connection yet that while you've already decided this is going to be a "masterpiece" , others (as well as thinking that this is one of the biggest scams of all time), are of the opinion that this will be, rather than "a masterpiece", the equivalence of "video sausage-making", as the Pinto, Trabant, & Yugo were the absolute worst of "automobile sausage-making"? Parts that while on their own may've made sense, but when cut & pasted together just didn't work? | bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
... Why are we all of a sudden talking about cars? | DepressedDonkey |
| @DepressedDonkey As opposed to *actually* being the Yugo, Trabant, or the Ford Pinto of "video sausage" "creations"? | bohnstube |
| @ProgressiveBoink
I agree... This video will be the Mona Lisa of Social Networking. | DepressedDonkey |
| @deZazi Yeah. But in the cases you referenced that was CLEARLY never either the stated or so obviously transparently the goal, OF "CREATING THE WORK ITSELF, as it so clearly is in this case. | bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
Your quote: "anyone foolish enough to have smoked their brains out & hand over their hard work to a couple of 'filmmakers'..."
But anyway, you're still really off the mark here. All art can be turned into a commercial monster- look at what people have done to old master artworks- turning them into tourist attractions, selling reproductions on everything from mugs to T-shirts. Now do you think that the artists intended that? NOPE. But it happened. | deZazi |
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| @deZazi You call it "insulting". I call it "opening up peoples eyes" to what it is so clearly: Resume padding for self-aggrandizement while doing very little actual work which could legitimately be called film"making", it should more accurately be called film-"cut & pasting". Assembling something erroneously being hyped to absolutely no end as a *grand artistic vision!*(of who?, and/or of what?) to sell washer/dryers & HDTV's, & hump Sundance tix sales. It's just an opposing opinion, deal w/ it. | bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
You can go right ahead and "point out" without insulting people. | deZazi |
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| @deZazi Not "lashing out". "Pointing out" the things like legalese in the "fine print", which I bet wasn't looked at by 90% who submitted any of their work to this...I'll just say "whatever it is" (or more accurately "whatever it *turns out to be* ", because I know real world facts seem to darken your "artistic vision" of the world. The two "artistes!" & LG insisted on putting the depressing "legalese" in the "contract", for a reason. I think it's depressing, you may not. That's certainly fair. | bohnstube |
| @deZazi ...but this way is just way more blatant about it, w/o even much of a pretense of just creating "art for art's sake". | bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
If you want to go about life with your vision clouded by these technicalities, then go right ahead. But don't lash out at the people who are actually working toward making something beautiful together. If you knew anything about performance art, you'd understand why participating in such a project is so spiritually [for lack of a better word] fulfilling. | deZazi |
| @bohnstube
*sigh* you're focus is in the wrong place. Sure corporate operations exist, there is a system in place to get things out into the open world as they are. All commercial art forms operate as such. If you want to get technical about it, then you could make an argument that the entire art world or art as a form is a scam. But that isn't a very joyful or "artistic" way of viewing the world. | deZazi |
| @deZazi 500yrs from now, what's going to be considered "art" is anybody's guess. For now, anyone foolish enough to have smoked their brains out & hand over their hard work to a couple of "filmmakers" to profit from, and to a huge international corporation to sell a few hundred thousand more washer dryers and HDTV's, & maybe give Robert Redford some more "walkin' around money", can call the results of their stupidity, "art", or frankly, anything else they like. For its 500 *day* "shelf life".
| bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
Dude, you're just digging yourself deeper here- it's obvious that you don't know anything about art now. Have you ever heard the term "post-modernism"? Or "dada" or even "pop-art" for that matter? Pick up an art history book and everything will become clear. | deZazi |
| @deZazi You assume you know MacDonald's life & circumstances, which you don't. If as contemporary of Michelangelo's, yes, I'd possibly feel different. THEN. My argument's NOT "derailed", because the beauty & power of his art has stood hundreds of yrs, distinct from a time when "art" MEANT deity glorification. No such restrictions exist today in the free world. Will *THIS?* be "art" 500yrs. hence? This free-will glorification of corporate funded cut 'n' paste? DOUBTFUL, HIGHLY, HIGHLY DOUBTFUL. | bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
Ah, i see. Don't mention an artist whose life and circumstances you've only assumed you understand. You do realize that he worked solely by commission and his greatest "masterpiece" was actually a project forced on him and dictated by the Pope- not a piece done through his own creative instinct? You just totally derailed your argument. | deZazi |
| @deZazi (Pronounce the following word very slowly & suspiciously) "Of" course. Collecting others work (beautiful and/or powerful and/or visually evocative), chop it up & re-assemble it "jig-saw puzzle style" to fit some vision of what some high-bucks "sponsor's" "style" of what they think will "sell" this that or the other consumer item, or pad a filmmaker's resume & vault him into the A-list cocktail party crowd's stratosphere as "an artiste!" was something say, Michelangelo would've ever done. | bohnstube |
| @bohnstube
And with all due respect, you should understand that although it might seem that way from the outside, the film makers/concept artists tend to be pure of heart and generally do want to make Art. What corrupts projects like this is people inputing who have no creative capacities- people concerned about legal matters, PR, management, investors, those with commercial interests. Working to appease everyone is tricky, but achieving great things requires compromise. | deZazi |
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